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« on: June 07, 2009, 06:15:32 pm »
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um, there are some things i have been reading about ethics recently, but i wanted to start with a quick survey and then we can launch into the other stuff.  try to answer the the following questions with one of the provided answers.  the point is not creative alternative solutions, but picking one of a limited option.  also, you can assume for the sake of this problem that all of your information is perfect and there are no mistakes about the possible outcomes.  also, as far as the people who's lives are at risk, you know nothing about them, and no one of them is distinguishable from any of the others.

problem 1:

there is a trolly that has run out of control.  a villain from an old western that has tied up 5 people on the track.  there is a side track though.  on this side track though there is one person that another villain has tied up.  Denise is standing by the track switch.  if she does nothing, 5 people will be run over.  if she throws the switch, the 5 will be saved, but the one tied to the side track will die.  what is Denise's ethical response?

a) Denise should do nothing
b) Denise may throw the switch
c) Denise should throw the switch

please explain your reasoning.

problem 2:

this is a similar situation as described above except there is no side track.  Pat is standing on a bridge above the track, next to a very, very fat man.  this man is fat enough that if he were pushed off the edge of the bridge, the trolly would hit him and stop, saving the lives of the 5 people tied to the track further down.  what Pat's ethical response?

a) Pat should do nothing
b) Pat may push the fat man off the bridge
c) Pat should push the fat man off the bridge

please explain your reasoning.

problem 3:

again, another out of control trolly with five people tied to the track that will be killed if nothing is done.  this time there is a side track but this side reconnects to the main line before the trolly reaches the 5 people.  the fat man though is tied to the side track.  if the trolly is diverted onto the side track, it will hit and kill the fat man, but it will be enough to stop the trolly.  molly is standing by the track switch.  what is molly's ethical response?

a) Molly should do nothing
b) Molly may switch the track
c) Molly should switch the track

please explain your reasoning.

problem 4:

Doug is a doctor, and a damn good one.  he has five very healthy patients except that each one of them has one failing organ.  with each of these five patients, a simple transplant surgery would solve their ailments, and all would be assured to go on to live a long life.  without a transplant they will all surely die in the near future.  the prospects of getting an organ from another source are all but nonexistent.  there is a man down in the waiting room that, as it turns out, is a perfect match for all five patients.  if Doug were to kill this man and transplant his organs into the five patients above, all of their lives would be saved.  what is Doug's ethical response?

a) Doug should do nothing
b) Doug may kill the man for his organs
c) Doug should kill the man for his organs

please explain your reasoning.

problem 4:

there is a very famous violinist.  he comes down with a fatal illness.  this is a strange illness because there is a cure for it, but it a strange one.  the violinist can be cured of this illness by being hooked up to William for a period of 13 months.  during this time William would be bed ridden next to the violinist.  if the violinist were unhooked before 13 months, it will immediately kill him.  William is presented with this option, but William declines to allow the violinist to be attached to him.  William is the only person on earth that can do this.  during the night, a group of violin lovers sneaks into William's house, and attach the violinist to him against his will (the violinist is in a coma and had no knowledge or participation in this).  what is William's ethical response?

a) William should do nothing (stay bed ridden for 13 months, allow violinist to live)
b) William may unhook the violinist (his option, either thing William did would be blameless)
c) William should unhook the violinist (thus killing the violinist)

problem 5:

not truly rich, Collin's one luxury in life is a vintage Mercedes sedan that, with much time, attention, and money, he's restored to mint condition...  one day, Collin stops at the intersection of two small country roads, both lightly traveled. he hears a voice screaming for help, and gets out and sees a man who's wounded and covered with a lot of his own blood. assuring Collin that his wound is confined to one of his legs, the man also informs Collin that he was a medical student for two full years. and, despite his expulsion for cheating on his second year final exams, which explains his indigent status since, he's knowledgeably tied his shirt near the wound as to stop the flow. so, there's no urgent danger of losing his life, Collin is informed, but there's great danger of losing his limb. this can be prevented, however, if Collin drives him to a rural hospital fifty miles away. "How did the wound occur?" Collin asks.  An avid bird-watcher, he admits that he trespassed on a nearby field and, in carelessly leaving, cut himself on rusty barbed wire. now, if Collin aided this trespasser, he must lay him across his fine back seat. But, then, the fine upholstery will be soaked through with blood, and restoring the car will cost over five thousand dollars.  what is Collin's ethical response?

a) Collin should drive off (leaving the man to lose his leg, but probably not his life)
b) Collin may do either without blame
c) Collin should drive the man to the hospital (ruining his back seat but saving the man's leg)

please explain your answer.

problem 6:

in Matthew's mailbox, there's something from UNICEF. After reading it through, Matthew correctly believes that, unless he soon sends in a check for $100, then, instead of each living many more years, over thirty more children will die soon.  what is Matthew's ethical response?

a) Matthew should do nothing (allowing the 30+ children to die)
b) Matthew may do either without blame
c) Matthew should send in the money (saving the lives of the children)

please explain your answer.

(sorry that whole thing got away from me.  i'll stop.)
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problem 1:

there is a trolly that has run out of control.  a villain from an old western that has tied up 5 people on the track.  there is a side track though.  on this side track though there is one person that another villain has tied up.  Denise is standing by the track switch.  if she does nothing, 5 people will be run over.  if she throws the switch, the 5 will be saved, but the one tied to the side track will die.  what is Denise's ethical response?

a) Denise should do nothing
b) Denise may throw the switch
c) Denise should throw the switch

please explain your reasoning.



I'm confused by one of the answers. One says she "may" throw the switch, and then one says she "should" throw the switch. Either she should throw the switch or she shouldn't... What's with the third, ambiguous answer?
Anyway, my answer is the bold one. She should throw the switch. But that is only my answer under the constraints of the survey. My belief is that surveys like these can not accurately gauge one's ethics. But it's still interesting.
She should not throw the switch because to throw the switch would be choosing to kill someone. Not acting allows others to die, but through no fault of her own. She didn't send the trolly out of control, or tie people to the tracks.

problem 2:

this is a similar situation as described above except there is no side track.  Pat is standing on a bridge above the track, next to a very, very fat man.  this man is fat enough that if he were pushed off the edge of the bridge, the trolly would hit him and stop, saving the lives of the 5 people tied to the track further down.  what Pat's ethical response?

a) Pat should do nothing
b) Pat may push the fat man off the bridge
c) Pat should push the fat man off the bridge

please explain your reasoning.


Same reasoning as above.


problem 3:

again, another out of control trolly with five people tied to the track that will be killed if nothing is done.  this time there is a side track but this side reconnects to the main line before the trolly reaches the 5 people.  the fat man though is tied to the side track.  if the trolly is diverted onto the side track, it will hit and kill the fat man, but it will be enough to stop the trolly.  molly is standing by the track switch.  what is molly's ethical response?

a) Molly should do nothing
b) Molly may switch the track
c) Molly should switch the track

please explain your reasoning.


Same reasoning.

problem 4:

Doug is a doctor, and a damn good one.  he has five very healthy patients except that each one of them has one failing organ.  with each of these five patients, a simple transplant surgery would solve their ailments, and all would be assured to go on to live a long life.  without a transplant they will all surely die in the near future.  the prospects of getting an organ from another source are all but nonexistent.  there is a man down in the waiting room that, as it turns out, is a perfect match for all five patients.  if Doug were to kill this man and transplant his organs into the five patients above, all of their lives would be saved.  what is Doug's ethical response?

a) Doug should do nothing
b) Doug may kill the man for his organs
c) Doug should kill the man for his organs

please explain your reasoning.


Same reasoning as the rest of the questions. ...People die, that's part of life. It's better to accept that than sacrifice someone else who would otherwise live. Either way someone will die, whether it is one or few makes no difference to the individual. The difference, for the individual making the choice, is whether or not they were responsible for death.

problem 4:

there is a very famous violinist.  he comes down with a fatal illness.  this is a strange illness because there is a cure for it, but it a strange one.  the violinist can be cured of this illness by being hooked up to William for a period of 13 months.  during this time William would be bed ridden next to the violinist.  if the violinist were unhooked before 13 months, it will immediately kill him.  William is presented with this option, but William declines to allow the violinist to be attached to him.  William is the only person on earth that can do this.  during the night, a group of violin lovers sneaks into William's house, and attach the violinist to him against his will (the violinist is in a coma and had no knowledge or participation in this).  what is William's ethical response?

a) William should do nothing (stay bed ridden for 13 months, allow violinist to live)
b) William may unhook the violinist (his option, either thing William did would be blameless)
c) William should unhook the violinist (thus killing the violinist)


If disconnecting him self from the man would instantly kill the man, William should do nothing.

problem 5:

not truly rich, Collin's one luxury in life is a vintage Mercedes sedan that, with much time, attention, and money, he's restored to mint condition...  one day, Collin stops at the intersection of two small country roads, both lightly traveled. he hears a voice screaming for help, and gets out and sees a man who's wounded and covered with a lot of his own blood. assuring Collin that his wound is confined to one of his legs, the man also informs Collin that he was a medical student for two full years. and, despite his expulsion for cheating on his second year final exams, which explains his indigent status since, he's knowledgeably tied his shirt near the wound as to stop the flow. so, there's no urgent danger of losing his life, Collin is informed, but there's great danger of losing his limb. this can be prevented, however, if Collin drives him to a rural hospital fifty miles away. "How did the wound occur?" Collin asks.  An avid bird-watcher, he admits that he trespassed on a nearby field and, in carelessly leaving, cut himself on rusty barbed wire. now, if Collin aided this trespasser, he must lay him across his fine back seat. But, then, the fine upholstery will be soaked through with blood, and restoring the car will cost over five thousand dollars.  what is Collin's ethical response?

a) Collin should drive off (leaving the man to lose his leg, but probably not his life)
b) Collin may do either without blame
c) Collin should drive the man to the hospital (ruining his back seat but saving the man's leg)

please explain your answer.


Without even thinking about possible damage to the car, Collin should take the man to the hospital. A car seat is not that important and it can be fixed or replaced if needed. Legs are harder to reattach.


problem 6:

in Matthew's mailbox, there's something from UNICEF. After reading it through, Matthew correctly believes that, unless he soon sends in a check for $100, then, instead of each living many more years, over thirty more children will die soon.  what is Matthew's ethical response?

a) Matthew should do nothing
(allowing the 30+ children to die)
b) Matthew may do either without blame
c) Matthew should send in the money (saving the lives of the children)

please explain your answer.


Matthew could save hundreds of lives if he were to give every dollar away, but then he'd have no means to help him self of those closest to him. I'm assuming, like everyone else, Matthew gets lots of solicitations that claim such things. Matthew should save his money to help those that are important to him and have helped him.
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b) Denise may throw the switch
b) Pat may push the fat man off the bridge
b) Molly may switch the track
b) Doug may kill the man for his organs
b) William may unhook the violinist (his option, either thing William did would be blameless)
b) Collin may do either without blame
b) Matthew may do either without blame


Regardless of what I would do in their situations, there are valid arguments for every a) and c) option.  Who am I to impose my own sense of morality and ethics on others?

On the other hand, if any of these people asked me what they should do, I'd probably advise them to do whatever wouldn't get them arrested or sued.  You can still be convicted of murder, even if you are doing it to save a life.

Does this make me a Libertarian who acknowledges that morality can be legislated?
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problem 1: Denise may throw the switch- depending on which villian she wants to deal with later. but if that 1 person is her own child, she should let the other 5 people die.

problem 2: Pat should do nothing- pushing this morbidly obese man in front of the trolly will not only likely kill the fat man, but may injure many others in the trolly from the sudden stop. She doesn't want a lawsuit on her hands. she should try getting the attention of the driver.

problem 3:b) Molly may switch the track- again this may harm more people than it kills. who are these five people and i'm beginning to care less for them.

problem 4: Doug should do nothing- "do no harm" comes to mind here.

problem 5:  b) William may unhook the violinist- depending on if this Violinist's family and insurance are willing to pay him for his services.

problem 6: c) Collin should drive the man to the hospital- it's just a back seat, and now that Collin has fully restored this car he's become bored on the weekends and could use something to distract him from his meaningless life. Maybe this man will become his friend in the future.

problem 7:b) Matthew may do either without blame- If he's got the money to blow, why not. but these charities will say anything to get your money and will probably hit you up for more money later.
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problem 1: Denise may throw the switch- depending on which villian she wants to deal with later. but if that 1 person is her own child, she should let the other 5 people die.

see intro, all the people involved are unidentifiable strangers.

problem 2: Pat should do nothing- pushing this morbidly obese man in front of the trolly will not only likely kill the fat man, but may injure many others in the trolly from the sudden stop. She doesn't want a lawsuit on her hands. she should try getting the attention of the driver.

problem 3:b) Molly may switch the track- again this may harm more people than it kills. who are these five people and i'm beginning to care less for them.

there you go getting creative.  i should have specified.  the trollies are empty.  also, the people have perfect info in these situations.  risk is a very real part of life, but these are actually getting at something very different.

problem 7:b) Matthew may do either without blame- If he's got the money to blow, why not. but these charities will say anything to get your money and will probably hit you up for more money later.

remember, these folks have perfect information, so he knows that this money in this instance will in fact save the children.  do not equate this with the junk mail you get most of the time.

i actually have a whole lot more to say, but i will refrain until everyone has a chance to get their answers out.

i love the variety of ethics showing up here.
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i love the variety of ethics showing up here.
Just a quick FYI, my answers may be different if these questions were first person.  Then again, I've taken these test before...
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If I change my answers now it'll look like I cheated. But knowing the trollies are full and if they can't be stoppped and if I didn't know any of these potential victims- it would probably sway my decision.
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i love the variety of ethics showing up here.
Just a quick FYI, my answers may be different if these questions were first person.  Then again, I've taken these test before...

I answered mine as if they were first person. I thought that was the point, what would I do, not what I would tell others to do.
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i love the variety of ethics showing up here.
Just a quick FYI, my answers may be different if these questions were first person.  Then again, I've taken these test before...

I answered mine as if they were first person. I thought that was the point, what would I do, not what I would tell others to do.

The way they are phrased here, I think they're asking how you would react as an observer - judging other people based on their actions in these scenarios.  I don't know exactly where Dave is going with this, but your answers should be more or less the same.   Anywho, I'm gonna stop here, because the less you know about it ahead of time, the more interesting it should be.
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Just a quick FYI, my answers may be different if these questions were first person.  Then again, I've taken these test before...

I answered mine as if they were first person. I thought that was the point, what would I do, not what I would tell others to do.

The way they are phrased here, I think they're asking how you would react as an observer - judging other people based on their actions in these scenarios.  I don't know exactly where Dave is going with this, but your answers should be more or less the same.   Anywho, I'm gonna stop here, because the less you know about it ahead of time, the more interesting it should be.

i hadn't thought about the hypocrite factor.  the difference between what you would tell someone else to do, and what you would do.  that would be a fun one to try to test for in some kind of formal way.
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i hadn't thought about the hypocrite factor.  the difference between what you would tell someone else to do, and what you would do.  that would be a fun one to try to test for in some kind of formal way.

Well, if the questions were phrased in first person, I'd pretty much refuse to answer.  All of these situations are not only a bit unrealistic, but also freaking horrible positions to be put in.  I can't really say how I'd react, other than to say it would be a split second, instinctual decision that no real though went into.  Which is why I refuse to judge any of the people in the examples.  It's not like they sit there and think to themselves "I'm gonna let those 5 people die, because it's not my place to save them" or "I'm gonna kill this motherfucker, cause 5 is more than 1".  They just think "HOLY SHIT, ANOTHER FUCKING RUNAWAY TROLLY, WTF DO I DO?!?!" and react.
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i hadn't thought about the hypocrite factor.  the difference between what you would tell someone else to do, and what you would do.  that would be a fun one to try to test for in some kind of formal way.

Well, if the questions were phrased in first person, I'd pretty much refuse to answer.  All of these situations are not only a bit unrealistic, but also freaking horrible positions to be put in.  I can't really say how I'd react, other than to say it would be a split second, instinctual decision that no real though went into.  Which is why I refuse to judge any of the people in the examples.  It's not like they sit there and think to themselves "I'm gonna let those 5 people die, because it's not my place to save them" or "I'm gonna kill this motherfucker, cause 5 is more than 1".  They just think "HOLY SHIT, ANOTHER FUCKING RUNAWAY TROLLY, WTF DO I DO?!?!" and react.

that is a good point also, that ethics talked about, and ethics in practice are two different things, but that doesn't mean that there aren't some interesting things to talk about around ethics though.
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problem 1:

there is a trolly that has run out of control.  a villain from an old western that has tied up 5 people on the track.  there is a side track though.  on this side track though there is one person that another villain has tied up.  Denise is standing by the track switch.  if she does nothing, 5 people will be run over.  if she throws the switch, the 5 will be saved, but the one tied to the side track will die.  what is Denise's ethical response?


If Denise does nothing, she is choosing to let 5 people die. Although she didn't tie up the people, she is still the deciding factor on who lives and dies. By not doing anything, she is letting off a more selfish tone in the sense that it is not her problem. Why should she have to choose? If she throws the switch, she chooses to let one person die. In a Utilitarian point of view, she should throw the switch and save the five since it will be for the greater good.

problem 2:

this is a similar situation as described above except there is no side track.  Pat is standing on a bridge above the track, next to a very, very fat man.  this man is fat enough that if he were pushed off the edge of the bridge, the trolly would hit him and stop, saving the lives of the 5 people tied to the track further down.  what Pat's ethical response?


Here, you pretty much have the same answer as above. Choosing to do nothing is choosing to let five people die. If you sacrifice the fat guy, it is for the greater good.

problem 3:

again, another out of control trolly with five people tied to the track that will be killed if nothing is done.  this time there is a side track but this side reconnects to the main line before the trolly reaches the 5 people.  the fat man though is tied to the side track.  if the trolly is diverted onto the side track, it will hit and kill the fat man, but it will be enough to stop the trolly.  molly is standing by the track switch.  what is molly's ethical response?


Again, I would have to say the same as the first two.

problem 4:

Doug is a doctor, and a damn good one.  he has five very healthy patients except that each one of them has one failing organ.  with each of these five patients, a simple transplant surgery would solve their ailments, and all would be assured to go on to live a long life.  without a transplant they will all surely die in the near future.  the prospects of getting an organ from another source are all but nonexistent.  there is a man down in the waiting room that, as it turns out, is a perfect match for all five patients.  if Doug were to kill this man and transplant his organs into the five patients above, all of their lives would be saved.  what is Doug's ethical response?


Technically, as a doctor you have an ethical responsibilty to each of your patients to care for his/her personal wellbeing. Although in the Utilitarian point of view the answer would be the same as above, I personally believe the doctor should not go through with killing a patient because he has then broken his ethical responsibilty to the patient to care for his wellbeing. Plus, when the other five patients die, each of them may have more organs that can be donated instead of one man giving up all of his.

problem 5:

there is a very famous violinist.  he comes down with a fatal illness.  this is a strange illness because there is a cure for it, but it a strange one.  the violinist can be cured of this illness by being hooked up to William for a period of 13 months.  during this time William would be bed ridden next to the violinist.  if the violinist were unhooked before 13 months, it will immediately kill him.  William is presented with this option, but William declines to allow the violinist to be attached to him.  William is the only person on earth that can do this.  during the night, a group of violin lovers sneaks into William's house, and attach the violinist to him against his will (the violinist is in a coma and had no knowledge or participation in this).  what is William's ethical response?


In this case, you must consider the equal rights of all humans. Just as the violinist has the right to treatment, the treatment (in this case) has a right to say no and that he doesn't want 13 months of his life to be wasted away even if it is to help someone. Being forced into something against your will is a loss of human right and should be corrected. William should unhook the violinist because all actions have consequences and forcing someone into something he/she didn't want to do will have such a consequence (in this case, death of the violinist).

problem 6:

not truly rich, Collin's one luxury in life is a vintage Mercedes sedan that, with much time, attention, and money, he's restored to mint condition...  one day, Collin stops at the intersection of two small country roads, both lightly traveled. he hears a voice screaming for help, and gets out and sees a man who's wounded and covered with a lot of his own blood. assuring Collin that his wound is confined to one of his legs, the man also informs Collin that he was a medical student for two full years. and, despite his expulsion for cheating on his second year final exams, which explains his indigent status since, he's knowledgeably tied his shirt near the wound as to stop the flow. so, there's no urgent danger of losing his life, Collin is informed, but there's great danger of losing his limb. this can be prevented, however, if Collin drives him to a rural hospital fifty miles away. "How did the wound occur?" Collin asks.  An avid bird-watcher, he admits that he trespassed on a nearby field and, in carelessly leaving, cut himself on rusty barbed wire. now, if Collin aided this trespasser, he must lay him across his fine back seat. But, then, the fine upholstery will be soaked through with blood, and restoring the car will cost over five thousand dollars.  what is Collin's ethical response?


This vehicle is a vintage model and a hobby for Collin. The fact that a person could lose part of his body or even his life in time (since the roads are lightly traveled), Collin should take the guy to a hospital where he can get treatment. The fact that this guy tresspassed and got expelled in college is irrelevant. A human life is still more important than a car.

problem 7:

in Matthew's mailbox, there's something from UNICEF. After reading it through, Matthew correctly believes that, unless he soon sends in a check for $100, then, instead of each living many more years, over thirty more children will die soon.  what is Matthew's ethical response?


Since Matthew correctly believes the information he received, he should send the $100. Again Utilitarian principal here is that it is for the greater good.

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problem 4:

Doug is a doctor, and a damn good one.  he has five very healthy patients except that each one of them has one failing organ.  with each of these five patients, a simple transplant surgery would solve their ailments, and all would be assured to go on to live a long life.  without a transplant they will all surely die in the near future.  the prospects of getting an organ from another source are all but nonexistent.  there is a man down in the waiting room that, as it turns out, is a perfect match for all five patients.  if Doug were to kill this man and transplant his organs into the five patients above, all of their lives would be saved.  what is Doug's ethical response?


Technically, as a doctor you have an ethical responsibilty to each of your patients to care for his/her personal wellbeing. Although in the Utilitarian point of view the answer would be the same as above, I personally believe the doctor should not go through with killing a patient because he has then broken his ethical responsibilty to the patient to care for his wellbeing. Plus, when the other five patients die, each of them may have more organs that can be donated instead of one man giving up all of his.

problem 5:

there is a very famous violinist.  he comes down with a fatal illness.  this is a strange illness because there is a cure for it, but it a strange one.  the violinist can be cured of this illness by being hooked up to William for a period of 13 months.  during this time William would be bed ridden next to the violinist.  if the violinist were unhooked before 13 months, it will immediately kill him.  William is presented with this option, but William declines to allow the violinist to be attached to him.  William is the only person on earth that can do this.  during the night, a group of violin lovers sneaks into William's house, and attach the violinist to him against his will (the violinist is in a coma and had no knowledge or participation in this).  what is William's ethical response?


In this case, you must consider the equal rights of all humans. Just as the violinist has the right to treatment, the treatment (in this case) has a right to say no and that he doesn't want 13 months of his life to be wasted away even if it is to help someone. Being forced into something against your will is a loss of human right and should be corrected. William should unhook the violinist because all actions have consequences and forcing someone into something he/she didn't want to do will have such a consequence (in this case, death of the violinist).

i thought your answers were fairly consistent, except for 4 and 5 here.  what was is that caused you to abandon the utilitarian principle in the medical doctor problem?
and 5 really has some interesteding questions to be asked.  you talk alot about consequences for actions, the violinist is the one that would be killed instantaneously if he were unhooked, but he had nothing to do being there.  he did not ask for it, and he would be being punished for someone else's crime.  that seems a little less than fair.  also, your answer here seems inconsistent with your answer in problem 6.  saving a leg is worth several thousand bucks, but saving a life is not worth a couple of months of his time?

i', not really interested in the what you answered so much as the how you got there of it.  interesting stuff.
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