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« on: April 26, 2009, 09:44:26 pm »
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http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6169488.ece

Internet users face regular “brownouts” that will freeze their computers as capacity runs out in cyberspace, according to research to be published later this year.

Experts predict that consumer demand, already growing at 60 per cent a year, will start to exceed supply from as early as next year because of more people working online and the soaring popularity of bandwidth-hungry websites such as YouTube and services such as the BBC’s iPlayer.

It will initially lead to computers being disrupted and going offline for several minutes at a time. From 2012, however, PCs and laptops are likely to operate at a much reduced speed, rendering the internet an “unreliable toy”.

When Sir Tim Berners-Lee, the British scientist, wrote the code that transformed a private computer network into the world wide web in 1989, the internet appeared to be a limitless resource. However, a report being compiled by Nemertes Research, a respected American think-tank, will warn that the web has reached a critical point and that even the recession has failed to stave off impending problems.

“With more people working or looking for work from home, or using their PCs more for cheap entertainment, demand could double in 2009,” said Ted Ritter, a Nemertes analyst. “At best, we see the [economic] slowdown delaying the fractures for maybe a year.”

In America, telecoms companies are spending £40 billion a year upgrading cables and supercomputers to increase capacity, while in Britain proposals to replace copper cabling across part of the network with fibreoptic wires would cost at least £5 billion.

Yet sites such as YouTube, the video-sharing service launched in 2005, which has exploded in popularity, can throw the most ambitious plans into disarray.

The amount of traffic generated each month by YouTube is now equivalent to the amount of traffic generated across the entire internet in all of 2000.

The extent of its popularity is indicated by the 100 million people who have logged on to the site to see the talent show contestant Susan Boyle in the past three weeks.

Another so-called “net bomb” being studied by Nemertes is BBC iPlayer, which allows viewers to watch high-definition television on their computers. In February there were more than 35 million requests for shows and iPlayer now accounts for 5 per cent of all UK internet traffic.

Analysts express such traffic in exabytes – a quintillion (or a million trillion) bytes or units of computer data. One exabyte is equivalent to 50,000 years’ worth of DVD-quality data.

Monthly traffic across the internet is running at about eight exabytes. A recent study by the University of Minnesota estimated that traffic was growing by at least 60 per cent a year, although that did not take into account plans for greater internet access in China and India.

While the net itself will ultimately survive, Ritter said that waves of disruption would begin to emerge next year, when computers would jitter and freeze. This would be followed by “brownouts” – a combination of temporary freezing and computers being reduced to a slow speed.

Ritter’s report will warn that an unreliable internet is merely a toy. “For business purposes, such as delivering medical records between hospitals in real time, it’s useless,” he said.

“Today people know how home computers slow down when the kids get back from school and start playing games, but by 2012 that traffic jam could last all day long.”

Engineers are already preparing for the worst. While some are planning a lightning-fast parallel network called “the grid”, others are building “caches”, private computer stations where popular entertainments are stored on local PCs rather than sent through the global backbone.

Telephone companies want to recoup escalating costs by increasing prices for “net hogs” who use more than their share of capacity.
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 10:02:45 pm »
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What they failed to mention is that porn (THE leader in internet popularity, and THE reason for internet security features) will also, ironically, contribute heavily to this doom.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 01:10:51 am »
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Bandwidth is the most expensive thing we sell at my office.  Sometimes, it's cheaper to add a server to an existing rack (because each server comes with a minimum amount of bandwidth, usually 2-4TB/month) than to just buy the bandwidth.

I'd be interested to find out how many dead servers customers have bought just for the bandwidth.  I'd be willing to bet there are dozens, if not hundreds of unused servers sitting on racks in our DCs.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2009, 04:38:31 pm »
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something about this article strikes me as a little alarmist.  i dunno, i could be wrong, but i suspect with a few simple adjustments, and like the article mentions there at the end, charging per bit, this problem could be avoided.  make people only download what they really want, instead of downloading 6 seasons of J.A.G. to watch the first half of the first episode, decide they don't like it, and delete the whole thing.  i would bet a few little changes like that, spread over the whole internet, would change things up quite a bit.
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That's probably why ISPs have been talking seriously about putting monthly caps on bandwidth....
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That's probably why ISPs have been talking seriously about putting monthly caps on bandwidth....

and that would give the tech time to catch up with the demand for information transmission.  also, i have full faith that if the internet as a whole slowed down, someone would figure out a way to speed it up for those that really needed (the above cited hospitals and medical records).
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That's probably why ISPs have been talking seriously about putting monthly caps on bandwidth....

and that would give the tech time to catch up with the demand for information transmission.  also, i have full faith that if the internet as a whole slowed down, someone would figure out a way to speed it up for those that really needed (the above cited hospitals and medical records).

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The problem w/ bandwidth is that it's difficult to create more of it without ripping up the streets and laying down new cable.  This will probably be solved in the future with more effective/efficient wireless options, but we aren't quite there yet.
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 09:58:11 am »
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Bah.
Every year we get better at sending more data down the same fiber optic lines, with better multiplexing.
There is not a bandwidth problem, except in "last mile" situations, and thats mostly because the cable companies are too fucking cheap to upgrade to DOCSIS 3.

Bandwidth caps are retarded - ISPs are making record profits because bandwidth costs have dropped due to the above stated improvements, and they just don't want to have to actually invest some of that money into infrastructure improvements.  I say again, BAH.  FUCK THAT SHIT. 

"Experts predict" - translation:  "Some clueless dickwad said"
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Bah.
Every year we get better at sending more data down the same fiber optic lines, with better multiplexing.
There is not a bandwidth problem, except in "last mile" situations, and thats mostly because the cable companies are too fucking cheap to upgrade to DOCSIS 3.

Bandwidth caps are retarded - ISPs are making record profits because bandwidth costs have dropped due to the above stated improvements, and they just don't want to have to actually invest some of that money into infrastructure improvements.  I say again, BAH.  FUCK THAT SHIT. 

"Experts predict" - translation:  "Some clueless dickwad said"

I'm not talking about ISPs supplying bandwidth to individuals, I'm talking about datacenters.  I'm not sure how much we are charged for bandwidth, but I doubt we make much of a profit on it (I don't doubt someone is making a major profit on it somewhere down the line though).

I guess it doesn't help that every customer I talk to thinks their shitty site is going to be the next youtube.  Everyone wants "unlimited" bandwidth, I probably spend more time explaining the difference between "unmetered" and "unlimted" to people who don't speak English than I do anything else.
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