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Topic: democracy is clearly working out well in iraq  (Read 166 times)
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« on: April 24, 2009, 06:46:07 pm »
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here is the original article.
http://www.queerty.com/iraqi-gays-face-threat-of-glued-anuses-20090421/

and here is the original for those of you who read arabic.
http://www.alarabiya.net/

tl;dr- the militia in iraq are finding the homosexuals and glueing their buttholes shut.  then they feed them a strong laxative, and sit back and watch while their lower colon ruptures and they die slowly and painfully.  and the icing on the cake?  there are videos of this shit spreading as viral videos in iraq via cell phone.  beautiful, huh?


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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2009, 07:35:01 pm »
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We've converted their government...but their culture is still essentially super-ultra conservative religious fundamentalism. It's like the GOP on 100% pure methamphetamine. ....And apparently with some sadistic frat-boy sense of humor, for flavor.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2009, 01:35:35 pm »
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they way i see it, we have pretty much two options with iraq.  the first would be to run it like we did japan after wwII.  that would be putting a US general in charge of the whole country, and basically have it under marshal law until the time we thought we had influenced culture enough that we could let them run it with out acting like barbarians.  the other option is to simply walk away.  wash our hands of them and get the fuck out of there.  i don't know what the right answer is, but what we are doing is simply a clusterfuck.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2009, 03:19:23 pm »
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they way i see it, we have pretty much two options with iraq.  the first would be to run it like we did japan after wwII.  that would be putting a US general in charge of the whole country, and basically have it under marshal law until the time we thought we had influenced culture enough that we could let them run it with out acting like barbarians.  the other option is to simply walk away.  wash our hands of them and get the fuck out of there.  i don't know what the right answer is, but what we are doing is simply a clusterfuck.

I don't think there is a right or wrong answer. It's a 'damned if we do, damned if we don't situation' we got our selves into.

With the age of communication influencing what governments can get away with overseas, it'd be difficult to put up a temporary dictatorship long enough to effect Iraq like we did Japan. On the other hand, we can construct the perfect democratic government for them and it won't matter worth a damn if they vote for religious fundamentalism. They're educated by their culture and their religion to tolerate violence and discrimination. To a far lesser extent, we have the same problem in our own country. If we can't fix it here, we've no hope of fixing it there.
But if we walk away and mind our own business, there's nothing to stop the fundamentalists from taking power and eventually becoming an enemy again.
I think the best we can do is construct an education system that reaches every child. Then we hope that after a few generations the culture becomes more moderate. We can't replace their religion, in a free society, but we can add some reason.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2009, 10:44:11 am »
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could we outlaw religion?  that would fix alot of problems both over here and over there.

yea, but then you make the religious nuts a "persecuted" minority, and it just hardens their resolve, and gains them sympathy.  oh well.  we can dream about a world without religion, right?
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2009, 10:58:23 am »
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Shhhhh The theists are always watching....we don't want them to discover our massive athiest conspiracy to create a secular world.
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